Long-form podcast recommendations (that isn't true crime)

I love a meatier podcast that really goes into depth about a specific thing/story etc, often I go for true crime but I’m looking to branch out. Would love some recommendations.

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Have you listened to Even The Rich? Each series takes a look at a major pop culture figure or family; they’ve covered the Kardashians, JFK, Britney Spears, Elizabeth Taylor, to name a few. The hosts scrutinise how they found the spotlight and what shaped their life and their public image. Super bingeable but with a lot of interesting intel!

This sounds so good, will give it a listen!